5/12/2021 3:14:43 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Poker Player (Summary) |
1 |
Re: A likely case of merit purchased |
5/11/2021 7:05:49 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
BitcoinGirl.Club (Summary) |
1 |
Re: TRUST and REPUTATION |
5/10/2021 1:08:33 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
nutildah (Summary) |
1 |
Re: This 2 account Connected |
5/9/2021 2:55:16 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
qwertyup23 (Summary) |
1 |
[WARNING] CRYPEX TOKEN - Plagiarized Whitepaper |
5/9/2021 7:06:08 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
nutildah (Summary) |
1 |
Re: TRUST and REPUTATION |
5/5/2021 10:21:51 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
xenon131 (Summary) |
1 |
Warning to MetaMask users . |
5/5/2021 6:55:03 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
DigitalFox (Summary) |
1 |
Why people are scared to use their crypto? |
5/4/2021 3:51:55 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Poker Player (Summary) |
1 |
Spending smerits as you earn them. |
5/3/2021 4:35:50 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
xenon131 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: How to Secure Our Wallet to Prevent Being Hacked! |
5/3/2021 3:34:36 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
DaveF (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Puzzle from a California professor |
5/3/2021 3:17:49 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
noorman0 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: TNOS Coin --Plagiarism whitepaper |
5/2/2021 2:17:06 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Mosharafhh (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Royse777🧢 Campaign Management and Translation 💹Agency📈💪🔥 |
5/2/2021 4:55:08 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Kong Hey Pakboy (Summary) |
1 |
Re: 2 Account are connected ( Same social account ) |
5/1/2021 11:44:42 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
The Cryptovator (Summary) |
1 |
Re: The user "amonymous" stealing other's works (Plagiarism) |
4/29/2021 2:35:18 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
friends1980 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Spam/cheat alt abuse arjuna, krisnajsadrak, Kang TB, JNR, coinporch & many more |
4/29/2021 7:58:44 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Refrumatrix (Summary) |
1 |
Re: How to Secure Our Wallet to Prevent Being Hacked! |
4/28/2021 2:23:53 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Symmetrick (Summary) |
1 |
BlueCoiner - Скамер и самозванец. Флаг. |
4/28/2021 8:13:34 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
The Cryptovator (Summary) |
1 |
The user "amonymous" stealing other's works (Plagiarism) |
4/25/2021 3:55:51 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
YOSHIE (Summary) |
2 |
Re: Banning a work account |
4/24/2021 4:49:19 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
YOSHIE (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2021 Q2) |
4/24/2021 3:38:17 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
PrimeNumber7 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Rule # 7 - Signature in Profile - Allowed? |
4/23/2021 5:59:25 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
FatFork (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed |
4/23/2021 3:07:24 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Lafu (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Rule # 7 - Signature in Profile - Allowed? |
4/23/2021 3:06:09 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
LoyceV (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Rule # 7 - Signature in Profile - Allowed? |
4/20/2021 4:32:50 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Pokapoka124 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Which wallet is save for my coin |
4/19/2021 2:00:33 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Shef198911 (Summary) |
1 |
Мой опыт по восстановлению после взлома |
4/19/2021 6:58:38 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
blue Snow (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2021 Q2) |
4/18/2021 7:36:32 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Stalker22 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: sign profile picture/tex |
4/17/2021 1:17:05 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
TimeTeller (Summary) |
1 |
[WARNING] Safe Heaven Finance using someone else's photos (for testimonials) |
4/14/2021 6:37:14 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
ScamViruS (Summary) |
1 |
Two years on Bitcointalk and success.......... |
4/14/2021 6:16:17 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
tyz (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Apkpure official app breached with trojan |
4/11/2021 6:19:34 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Poker Player (Summary) |
1 |
Can someone check if there is something wrong with this? |
4/10/2021 1:46:36 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Altryist (Summary) |
1 |
Re: [ЛOГ] Пoльзoвaтeли, пoвыcившиe cвoй paнг - Пoздpaвлeния! |
4/8/2021 12:48:09 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
DigitalFox (Summary) |
1 |
Re: 652 Ukrainian officials declare holding a total of 46,351 BTC |
4/7/2021 9:17:43 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Pmalek (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Apple is considered safe but still you gotta be careful |
4/7/2021 8:59:54 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
vintages (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Apple is considered safe but still you gotta be careful |
4/6/2021 7:16:12 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
qwertyup23 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: AITNetwork.org : NEXT GENERATION Artificial Intelligence Trading Network |
4/4/2021 4:46:23 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
qwertyup23 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: CryptoSwap.Finance--Plagiarism whitepaper |
4/4/2021 4:44:13 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
CryptoYar (Summary) |
1 |
[Warning]Porkswap.finance Plagiarized Lite-paper |
4/3/2021 1:07:50 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
CryptopreneurBrainboss (Summary) |
2 |
[April fool] Vacsino media Bounty campaign || Budget $100,000 in stablecoin || |
4/3/2021 6:29:13 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Symmetrick (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Альты нашего "городка" |
4/3/2021 5:51:48 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
YOSHIE (Summary) |
1 |
Re: suggestions request about trading |
4/2/2021 6:08:21 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Pokapoka124 (Summary) |
1 |
Opportunities in the Crypto Space |
3/31/2021 3:00:42 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
XEOP$ (Summary) |
1 |
Re: [Merit] Вoзьми задание, поддержи форум контентом |
3/28/2021 2:46:09 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
friends1980 (Summary) |
1 |
Spam/cheat alt abuse arjuna, krisnajsadrak, Kang TB, JNR, coinporch & many more |
3/22/2021 3:22:44 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
FatFork (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2021 Q1) |
3/21/2021 6:15:38 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Timelord2067 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: What happened to Yoshie? |
3/19/2021 6:27:03 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Stalker22 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: [Bounty Cheat] 2 Users, Two Links, One Twitter Account Connected |
3/19/2021 6:25:18 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Igebotz (Summary) |
1 |
Re: [Bounty Cheat] 2 Users, Two Links, One Twitter Account Connected |
3/17/2021 3:05:36 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Mr.right85 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Congratulations to me |
3/17/2021 4:48:54 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Smartvirus (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Have you ever noticed that some of your posts are gone without being told ... |
3/14/2021 9:19:10 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Zilon (Summary) |
1 |
Advantages and disadvantages of keeping Smerit |
3/13/2021 1:24:53 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
tvplus006 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed |
3/10/2021 3:02:13 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
FatFork (Summary) |
1 |
Re: [OPEN] BestChange Signature Campaign | Sr Member+ |
3/10/2021 5:53:52 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
tvplus006 (Summary) |
1 |
[SCAM] Doge2moon.click - Ponzi scheme |
3/10/2021 5:37:19 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Charles-Tim (Summary) |
1 |
My account, a year old today |
3/6/2021 11:36:33 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
CryptopreneurBrainboss (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Newbie want to know more about Bitcoin and the Btclk Forum. |
3/5/2021 12:54:01 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
bakasabo (Summary) |
1 |
[SCAM] Community Token Bounty Campaign |
3/5/2021 7:26:11 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Stalker22 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2021 Q1) |
3/4/2021 5:16:16 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
tvplus006 (Summary) |
1 |
[SCAM] Linetrick.club - Ponzi scheme |
3/3/2021 2:19:50 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
dkbit98 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Pregled Bitcointalk Signature-Ad kampanja |
3/3/2021 1:14:32 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Rikafip (Summary) |
1 |
Re: [Warning] Solomon Cash using stock photo for their CEO! |
3/2/2021 12:47:39 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
CryptopreneurBrainboss (Summary) |
1 |
[Open] DeFireX Yield Farming Signature Campaign || Full member+ payout in btc. |
3/2/2021 12:03:57 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
bitterguy28 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: [Open] DeFireX Yield Farming Signature Campaign || Full member+ payout in btc. |
3/2/2021 8:06:20 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
MuffinMaster (Summary) |
2 |
Re: The question to DT. 37 Alt member farm. Cheating signatures of companies. |
3/2/2021 5:09:31 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
tvplus006 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: ARNO Token-Plagiarism whitepaper |
3/2/2021 3:57:43 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Jawhead999 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Cryptomint9 not a plagiarist? |
3/1/2021 2:09:50 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
The Cryptovator (Summary) |
1 |
The minimum liability for the forum. |
3/1/2021 12:53:56 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Pokapoka124 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Scam Exposed: GSD Asset Investment is a Scam!! |
2/27/2021 11:13:48 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Maus0728 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Yet another free eBook |
2/26/2021 2:02:54 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
bakasabo (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Bounty hunter to presale investor! |
2/26/2021 1:34:43 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Marvelman (Summary) |
1 |
Re: [Open] ▄■▀■▄ 🌟Bitvest.io🌟 - Plinko Sign Camp (Member-Hero Accepted)(New2) |
2/26/2021 11:56:55 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Swordsoffreedom (Summary) |
1 |
Re: [Open] ▄■▀■▄ 🌟Bitvest.io🌟 - Plinko Sign Camp (Member-Hero Accepted)(New2) |
2/26/2021 11:21:14 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
CryptopreneurBrainboss (Summary) |
1 |
Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ? |
2/26/2021 11:09:29 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
tyKiwanuka (Summary) |
1 |
User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ? |
2/26/2021 6:30:49 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Darker45 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Someone asked me he got $500 to invest in btc, is it the right time to enter? |
2/24/2021 10:23:10 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Pmalek (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Plagiarism? Ban request. |
2/24/2021 10:22:53 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
SFR10 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Plagiarism? Ban request. |
2/23/2021 2:57:19 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
xenon131 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: A bug in brave browser that exposes users information on its Tor window |
2/23/2021 1:46:51 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Symmetrick (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Альты нашего "городка" |
2/21/2021 6:13:21 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Nexcital (Summary) |
1 |
Abuse of green trust |
2/18/2021 12:54:20 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Ozymon (Summary) |
1 |
HOW I KNOW CRYPTO! (A TOTAL BEGINNER EXPERIENCE) |
2/8/2021 10:52:14 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
friends1980 (Summary) |
1 |
Bounty hunters, report spam to receive higher bounties |
2/6/2021 4:04:15 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Vod (Summary) |
1 |
Re: An Appeal to Remove My Unnecessary Red Tag! |
2/5/2021 3:07:33 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Symmetrick (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Репутация в Русском локальном разделе |
2/5/2021 2:32:27 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
YOSHIE (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2021 Q1) |
2/4/2021 9:43:13 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
FatFork (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2021 Q1) |
2/4/2021 9:02:09 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
MusaMohamed (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Should know every newbies. |
2/4/2021 6:36:33 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Best_Change (Summary) |
1 |
Re: [CFNP] BestChange Signature Campaign | Sr Member+ |
2/2/2021 9:19:25 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
TheBeardedBaby (Summary) |
1 |
Re: [OPEN SLOTS] ChipMixer Signature Campaign | Sr Member+ | Up to 0.0375 BTC/w |
2/1/2021 11:43:08 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
TheBeardedBaby (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Long-time sig campaign farm ID'd via single wallet transaction |
2/1/2021 11:38:28 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
nutildah (Summary) |
2 |
Long-time sig campaign farm ID'd via single wallet transaction |
1/30/2021 3:44:26 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
rhomelmabini (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2021 Q1) |
1/30/2021 11:44:45 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
morvillz7z (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed |
1/29/2021 3:03:47 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
nutildah (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Bounty Scammers, Why Do We Care? |
1/29/2021 3:03:31 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
The Cryptovator (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Bounty Scammers, Why Do We Care? |
1/29/2021 12:51:08 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Despairo (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2021 Q1) |
1/29/2021 7:11:48 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
TopTort777 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: [ЛOГ] Пoльзoвaтeли, пoвыcившиe cвoй paнг - Пoздpaвлeния! |
1/28/2021 9:34:49 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
YOSHIE (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Bounty Scammers, Why Do We Care? |
1/28/2021 4:55:59 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
logfiles (Summary) |
1 |
Re: 10 Bounty Abuser. Cheated by enrolling multiple accounts |
1/26/2021 12:12:28 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
YOSHIE (Summary) |
1 |
Unchanged alt remains cheating in the DeFi-For-You campaign. |
1/26/2021 7:46:06 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Rikafip (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Another deception of bounty payments to hunters POOLZ |
1/25/2021 2:46:07 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
holydarkness (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Plagiarism whitepaper --https://ypro.finance/ |
1/25/2021 7:45:51 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
nutildah (Summary) |
1 |
Re: @theymos please sMerit 1:1 |
1/24/2021 4:14:50 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Vod (Summary) |
1 |
Re: [24h] Three Millionth User |
1/24/2021 4:11:26 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
The Cryptovator (Summary) |
1 |
Re: How about locking some ANN threads that are from proven scammers? |
1/23/2021 12:15:48 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
nutildah (Summary) |
1 |
Re: DefaultTrust changes |
1/23/2021 7:09:51 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
YOSHIE (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2021 Q1) |
1/22/2021 3:50:44 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
FatFork (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2021 Q1) |
1/22/2021 10:21:06 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
TopTort777 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: 4000+ posts and 1 merit. 2021 version :) |
1/21/2021 2:58:03 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Lucius (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Advertising spammers of the ZB.com exchange |
1/19/2021 12:53:30 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
acquafredda (Summary) |
1 |
Re: [FULL] ChipMixer Signature Campaign | Sr Member+ |
1/19/2021 4:07:38 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
YOSHIE (Summary) |
1 |
Bounty managers break forum, cheats & multi-account rules. |
1/18/2021 5:04:48 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
nutildah (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny |
1/18/2021 5:03:37 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
blue Snow (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed |
1/15/2021 7:19:07 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
witcher_sense (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Buying Bitcoin is like planting trees |
1/13/2021 4:04:24 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
FatFork (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2020 Q4) |
1/9/2021 4:07:34 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
bakasabo (Summary) |
1 |
Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services |
1/3/2021 6:22:56 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
FatFork (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2021 Q1) |
12/30/2020 1:54:52 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
dkbit98 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Selfmade Legendary member after 3+ years |
12/29/2020 9:11:19 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Smartvirus (Summary) |
1 |
Re: How much btc do you need to secure your future? |
12/28/2020 5:13:11 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
FatFork (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2020 Q4) |
12/26/2020 10:28:27 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Rikafip (Summary) |
1 |
Shouldn't this be treated as an obvious plagiarism case? |
12/26/2020 10:14:37 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
yemight600 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Newbies/Jr members please don't beg for merits. |
12/26/2020 7:21:58 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
yemight600 (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Your merit will find you! |
12/26/2020 6:52:35 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
YOSHIE (Summary) |
1 |
Policies for newbies and other users. |
12/24/2020 6:41:42 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
CryptopreneurBrainboss (Summary) |
1 |
Re: 🏆 Bitcointalk Community Awards [Results of the Year + Quiz] |
12/24/2020 6:32:09 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
zasad@ (Summary) |
1 |
[2020] Positive news! |
12/23/2020 12:22:34 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
Best_Change (Summary) |
1 |
Re: [CFNP] BestChange Signature Campaign | Sr Member+ |
12/23/2020 5:00:53 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
decodx (Summary) |
1 |
Re: CONFUSED NEWBIE |
12/20/2020 6:48:40 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
bullrun2024bro (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed |
12/19/2020 12:52:36 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
hosseinimr93 (Summary) |
1 |
Isn't bitcoinermatt abusing the merit system? |
12/17/2020 2:25:38 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
xenon131 (Summary) |
1 |
"Красные" отзывы. |
12/16/2020 7:14:21 AM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
nutildah (Summary) |
1 |
Re: Rant: If you have sell target, YOU'RE COMPLETELY MISSING THE POINT. |
12/14/2020 1:27:48 PM |
lovesmayfamilis (Summary) |
suchmoon (Summary) |
1 |
Re: My new idea about creating topics regularly but I would like to be sure first... |